McVicars Your are either with us or against us

Garth McVicar’s is a baboon there is not other way to say and it is great that he and his ‘ghost writer’ produced a book that reiterates this.

One of the things I have learnt about this man is his inability to think outside the square – everything is black and white and those in the black are criminals and according to him predominantly Maori or Pacific Island peoples as the following shows.

“Mr McVicar also took a swipe at Green MP Keith Locke and Mana’s Annette Sykes who said Tasers were being used disproportionately on Maori and Pacific Islanders. Mr Locke and Ms Sykes seem to conveniently overlook the fact that a corresponding 'disproportionate' number of Maori and Pacific Islanders are also committing the crime."

McVicar is also unable to take on challenge from anyone – in his book he argues that he has had to take develop a thick skin to cope with insults from those who oppose him – this is funny really as McVicar has no problem about throwing insults round when he wants – calling people who want different outcomes from him the  ‘P C brigade’ and arguing that “Their stupidity knows no bounds!!”

In another discussion McVicar argued that people like me “turn everything into a race issue!”  When challenged to read articles that showed how indigeneity influences sentencing McVicar vanishes into his redneck hole.

Another display of McVicar’s far right opinions involved the event which saw a 15-year-old schoolboy stab a 17 year old intruder in Auckland earlier this year. He argued that the boy should be given “a medal not being threatened with prosecution, these crims need to learn if they are going to comit crime they might pay with their life! I have no sympathy for the crim!”

This of course opened up a huge debate fueled by similar hurtful and racist comments he made about the killing of Pihema Cameron. Remember McVicar supported Bruce Emery stating that he was “a decent hard working citizen [who] is facing a murder charge because of his frustration…” and that “The Sensible Sentencing Trust ... wanted to see the killer of a teenage tagger set free, because he was forced to take the law into his own hands”.

This is in fact wrong many in SST did not and still do not support McVicar’s comments about Pihema or in fact about the young man who stabbed the 17 year old intruder.  As the discussion and challenges unfolded McVicar came out screaming and told members of Justice Hot Tub who had challenged him that

“… if this low life wasn't terrorising some innocent citizen he wouldn't have got stabbed, is that so dificult to understand? My family, my home is MY castle and NOBODY has the right to trespass. Don't make excuses, don't tell me he was on drugs or didn't get his mothers breast milk or some other pathetic excuse. If you don't understand that go start some pathetic 'loosers' group”.

This on a site where discussion and debate is encouraged by the administrators and most importantly by a man (McVicar) who wants to bring a halt to murder in New Zealand.

Another worrisome aspect about McVicar and the objectives of SST is how they reach their objectives. One would think that a lobby group that wants to influence policy changes on crime and punishment would do so with robust discussion and sound information. Instead it appears that McVicar was more interested in taking a leading court case as his starting point and demand changes from here. This of course involved the provocation law which he points out that he and Gil Elliot

“…successfully harangued Justice Minister Simon Power to have the provocation law removed from the statute books. A win for SST, then…even thought we wanted to get rid of provocation as a defence, and have done so, I now understand the need for its actually being in the law…I’m not 100 per cent sure that getting rid of provocation was the answer…”

This from a man who harangues the left or anyone that does not agree with him for ill thought out policy on crime and punishment.

Worse still that after making this statement in his book he goes on to congratulate the government for ridding the country of the ill thought out law that allowed the Waihopai protestors to defend themselves against prosecution with the “greater need” defence. He goes on to state that “the judge erred by allowing it to run, so we get a law change. Immediately, the opponents were saying “knee-jerk reaction”.

So should I leave this site and leave McVicar to carry on lording his racists views – NO I will not allow this man to blather on with his bullshit – I might not be changing minds but I will continue to poke this idiot with a long sensible stick!!!!! Hell its sport really!!!!